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    To make this post short: Should I do wrestling or Judo and why is one sport better than the other?

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    It really depends on what you want to get out of either sport. One isn't better than the other, it really depends on the practitioner of the style/sport. Are you going to be going into competition for either sport? What exatly are you looking for in taking lessons in one of these?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhillyDev View Post
    It really depends on what you want to get out of either sport. One isn't better than the other, it really depends on the practitioner of the style/sport. Are you going to be going into competition for either sport? What exatly are you looking for in taking lessons in one of these?
    I mostly want to get good at ground work-pins, submissions, and throws. I want to compete in MMA tourneys in a few years.

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    Why don't you find an MMA school, or Brasilian Jiu Jitsu school?

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    in traditional wrestling you arent going to learn many throws. i think for mma transition judo would be better for all around skill but wrestlers are almost always good at using that wrestling in a mma situation. if you want throws check into grecko roman wrestling rather than traditional college style wrestling. i am personally bias towards judo since i practice that, bjj, and 10th planet jj.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhillyDev View Post
    Why don't you find an MMA school, or Brasilian Jiu Jitsu school?
    There is only one where I go to school, but its also really expensive and a bit far aways.

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    Judo definitely teaches you throws a thousand times better then Wrestling, but Wrestling will teach you takedowns and pinning combos much better then Judo. At least, thats what I've learned.

    If you had to compare, I'd say Judo has around 400 moves that you can learn throughout school time, and in wrestling you'd learn about 250 in school. There are more Judo moves, some which are illegal in wrestling, though I felt Judo to be more on throwing and Wrestling to be more on the mat. There are an infinite amount of moves so nobody better argue with me on that, though unless your really advanced thats probably the definite number you'd learn.

    Honestly I am biased towards Wrestling because I did it first (and it was practically free, judo was freaking expensive).
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    When I was in Taekwondo, I would always parttake in judo courses, it was fun. It deals more with throwing and ground work, some submissions. Neither one is better than the other its just a preference. For what your wanting to get out of it I would take Judo.

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    look around for a good brazilian jiu jitsu school. i know at my school its fairly cheap and they have a day dedicated to throws and takedowns. other day is ground positions and submissions. if you want some great submissions for mma and no-gi look into the 10th planet system. not many schools around but get yourself a copy of mastering the rubber guard by eddie bravo. best purchase i ever made. ive read all his books and a book by the 10th planet dallas fort worth instructor and they are really amazing. for mma use it is excellent

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    Actually, now that i think about it, do both. wrestle during school and judo in summer. If you do that you'll be wicked good.
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    I think Judo would be better for training for MMA because it incorporates a lot of leverage throws and tosses that would be key for any MMA fighter. I think it would actually be better if you took Judo and wrestled at the same time, you could incorporate both of those to help you in different situations, and with learning both of those you will be unstoppable on the mat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by louhmaylin View Post
    look around for a good brazilian jiu jitsu school. i know at my school its fairly cheap and they have a day dedicated to throws and takedowns. other day is ground positions and submissions. if you want some great submissions for mma and no-gi look into the 10th planet system. not many schools around but get yourself a copy of mastering the rubber guard by eddie bravo. best purchase i ever made. ive read all his books and a book by the 10th planet dallas fort worth instructor and they are really amazing. for mma use it is excellent
    Probably my biggest problem is that I attend school in Louisiana (not in New Orleans), which (big surprise) offers very little as far as martial arts is concerned. However, the book sounds good, so I'll have to check it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwistedMind View Post
    I think Judo would be better for training for MMA because it incorporates a lot of leverage throws and tosses that would be key for any MMA fighter. I think it would actually be better if you took Judo and wrestled at the same time, you could incorporate both of those to help you in different situations, and with learning both of those you will be unstoppable on the mat.
    I would love to take both of them, but the thing is time, money, and time. I'm a full time college student working on two degrees. Wrestling practices 4x a week, Judo is 2x a week. Judo is also much cheaper than wrestling, but wrestling gets you more "respect" around campus. I don't know, its a tough match.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankoman View Post
    Actually, now that i think about it, do both. wrestle during school and judo in summer. If you do that you'll be wicked good.
    Dude, that's actually not a bad idea. It's what I'm thinking about doing now.

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    Do you by chance have a boxing or muay thai instructor near you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhillyDev View Post
    Do you by chance have a boxing or muay thai instructor near you?
    Sadly, only at the MMA academy, but as I said already, I don't have the time nor money for that right now. Besides, boxing I can teach myself with some DVDs. Also, I have a decent striking back ground from traditional taekwondo and some Kempo.

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    See about going for a free class, usually schools offer these. Then you can see which one you like better.

    As for which one, I'm a little biased towards Judo, because I do BJJ. But I also know that Wrestling (Greco Roman) is a great background to come from when you're getting into MMA.

    I would say go with Wrestling, because nowadays in MMA theres so many people entering with wrestling backgrounds, for the sole reason that it is effective in MMA. Not saying Judo isn't because I know many people into Judo and some who have entered the cage. But Wrestling seems to be a more dominant aspect in MMA than Judo.

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    i'd just make sure you're not learning "sport" judo. I know alot of judo schools focus more on techniques that will help you win sanctioned judo competitions as opposed to a more combat/mma style.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zacariasd View Post
    To make this post short: Should I do wrestling or Judo and why is one sport better than the other?
    They are pretty close. Judo has more takedowns and Wrestling has more on the mat moves. I am biased to say Wrestling, but Judo is also a little easier too so its up to you.
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    Wreslters have ALWAYS done well in MMA. Let's see, Randy, Brock, Bader, Sylvia, Ortiz, Lidell and SOO many more were wrestlers.

    Now...judo...Karo Parysian? He's near the bottom of the heap in the welterweight division...all the wrestlers except ryan bader were/are champions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stonerocks21 View Post
    Wreslters have ALWAYS done well in MMA. Let's see, Randy, Brock, Bader, Sylvia, Ortiz, Lidell and SOO many more were wrestlers.

    Now...judo...Karo Parysian? He's near the bottom of the heap in the welterweight division...all the wrestlers except ryan bader were/are champions.

    If you're looking for MMA translation, choose wrestling 100%.
    I think wrestling teaches a better sense of balance and strength then Judo does which is why it translates so well over to MMA. Judo does a lot of throws and distance moves while wrestling stays up close and personal and uses more leverage and momentum. Take that, add some punches and some submission moves, and you've got yourself a great MMA fighter.

    So I'd say Judo is better on there feet and wrestlers are much much better on the ground.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zacariasd View Post
    I would love to take both of them, but the thing is time, money, and time. I'm a full time college student working on two degrees. Wrestling practices 4x a week, Judo is 2x a week. Judo is also much cheaper than wrestling, but wrestling gets you more "respect" around campus. I don't know, its a tough match.
    I would initially have said that neither is better, it all depends on which of the 2 you feel drawn to, however if you're going to follow one because you get more "respect" then your enjoyment of the sport will be short-lived. Do the one you want to do no matter what repsonse you get from people around you
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    Quote Originally Posted by stonerocks21 View Post
    Wreslters have ALWAYS done well in MMA. Let's see, Randy, Brock, Bader, Sylvia, Ortiz, Lidell and SOO many more were wrestlers.

    Now...judo...Karo Parysian? He's near the bottom of the heap in the welterweight division...all the wrestlers except ryan bader were/are champions.

    If you're looking for MMA translation, choose wrestling 100%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian18 View Post
    fedor anyone?
    LOL, yeah no kidding.

    Judo came from jiu-jitsu so any fighter who knows jiu-jitsu, will know some judo. Should I begin to list names of fighters who know jiu-jitsu?

    A lot of wrestlers come into my judo club and most of them make a decent transistion. The only problem they have is they tend to keep their heads up and their hips high making them easy to choke and sweep. Once they break those habits, they're fine. I only did wrestling for 1 year in high school and it was fun but I enjoy judo much more because of the submissions. Wrestling will teach you more pins but submissions are illegal. Pins are legal in judo but you don't have to have as much control over your opponent as you do in wrestling to win via pin. Judo will teach you more throws but most throws are illegal in wrestling. I would say try both and go with whichever one you enjoy more. They're two different sports and it depends on the person.

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    i agree with most people, judo is better for the transition into mma, i've done judo competitively for ages and recently went to my first mma class and almost all moves had been covered by judo training. also most of the skills required were transferrable from judo. Wrestling would give some aspects, but judo covers more bases for mma, such as throws and groundwork ie. pins etc. but also the basic mma moves like arm bars, triangle chokes, figure 4 armlocks etc are all found in judo! definately give it a try!

 

 

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