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    How "natural" is natural bodybuilding? Does it mean no supplements?

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    it means natural so no steriods/gh/insulin

    suppliments are allowed like protein/creatine but not banned substances (pro hormones)

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    Why do we make this distinction? Is steroid use ok in Bodybuilding as opposed to Natural Bodybuilding? Or does it mean there are no tests for steriods in competition. I'm not asking if its rampant, I'm just trying to understand the distinction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zlowrider View Post
    Why do we make this distinction? Is steroid use ok in Bodybuilding as opposed to Natural Bodybuilding? Or does it mean there are no tests for steriods in competition. I'm not asking if its rampant, I'm just trying to understand the distinction.
    Here's what i think (probably room for correction):

    Somebody who uses steroids and build muscle is still called a bodybuilder. Although steroid use is frowned upon, they are still used by certain people for certain reasons. So the term Bodybuilding can be applied to anyone who is building muscle by whatever means.

    The term Natural Bodybuilding refers to somebody who does not use any steroids etc. Wikipedia sums it up very nicely:

    Natural bodybuilding is the practice or participation in the form of body modification, known as bodybuilding; and to do this without the use of banned substances. Most commonly refering to the use of illegal performance-enhancing drugs such as anabolic steroids and human growth hormone. In the sport of natural bodybuilding, the classification of natural is based on the organization you are competing in.


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    Basically, Bodybuilders are those that have done steroids at some point in there life, whether they regret it or not, they can't reverse the effects. They are significantly larger then others, and sometimes more blockier. Natural bodybuilders stay away from all that and bulk and cut without that. There was a time where Steroids weren't really a problem, mainly Arnolds time, and most bodybuilders were using them. Coleman was around that era too, and he might not now but he did then and because of that he can never be a natural bodybuilder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zlowrider View Post
    How "natural" is natural bodybuilding? Does it mean no supplements?
    No it doesn't mean no supplements in general, but some may be banned. Prohormones, DHEA (some orgs), some testosterone boosters for example.

    If you look on the websites of the natural organizations, they'll have a list of what substances are allowed and which are banned. Some also require the competitor to be lifetime drug free, and others have a time limit like 5 years drug free etc.

    The testing also varies from org to org.
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    Philip Ricardo is lifetime natural and have a phenomenal physique:

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    like Damien said some federations only require a 5-7 year banned substance free, but stricter federation require life time drug free and if it's the IFBB it's a don't ask don't tell no testing deal
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    I've thought about this for a while, but some steroids, like some drugs, don't remain in your system for an extremely long time. What prevents a "natural bodybuilder" from taking steroids or some other performance enhancer in the offseason while bulking up? Could/Do some "natural bodybuilders" do this and get away with it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrianTheLion View Post
    I've thought about this for a while, but some steroids, like some drugs, don't remain in your system for an extremely long time. What prevents a "natural bodybuilder" from taking steroids or some other performance enhancer in the offseason while bulking up? Could/Do some "natural bodybuilders" do this and get away with it?
    Competitors can be polygraphed as well before a competition to see if there has been any use of illegal substances before the comp.

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    wait..steroid effects cant be reversed? o really?
    what?

    honestly. it depends on the natural organization and their rules. some allow you to compete if you have PH use in the past, but you have to have been off for like 2, 3, or 5 years depending on their rules.

    it's all silly to me because its based on "legal and illegal" more than anything. i mean if you allow creatine and other compounds that help you out...its all supplementing in one way or another. even food is eating a specific way to get specific results.

    it all depends on your veiwpoint, i suppose.

    but i know very successful natural and uhm..."whatever you'd like to call them" bodybuilders.
    and with talking to most of them, when you introduce gh, slin, steroids, etc...it only increases your work and pushes your determination and dedication farther. results might come faster, but thats both a blessing and a curse. i dont ridicule either side and i cheer anyone on who is living "the life" we live.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carl1174 View Post
    Competitors can be polygraphed as well before a competition to see if there has been any use of illegal substances before the comp.

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    every natty organization show ive been too..all competitors are polygraphed and then the winners are **** tested. not saying thats the norm, but its what ive seen.

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    I believe some shows also judge by panel. If you don't look natural, you're not. This is sometimes the best way to judge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LtL View Post
    I believe some shows also judge by panel. If you don't look natural, you're not. This is sometimes the best way to judge.

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    my trainer is a world champion natrual competitor...if they did that, he'd be out. not saying it doenst happen, but ive never seen that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitanCT View Post
    my trainer is a world champion natrual competitor...if they did that, he'd be out. not saying it doenst happen, but ive never seen that.
    [HIGHJACK]Who's your trainer?[/HIGHJACK]

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    Quote Originally Posted by LtL View Post
    [HIGHJACK]Who's your trainer?[/HIGHJACK]

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    Luis Santiago.


    5'3.5" competes around 135-140lbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitanCT View Post
    Luis Santiago.


    5'3.5" competes around 135-140lbs.
    Nice thighs
    But, banned on site? For what?! He don't look unnatural to my eye.
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    Dude is THICK!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abaddon View Post
    Nice thighs
    But, banned on site? For what?! He don't look unnatural to my eye.
    He has got an awesome physique. i agree that he looks natural, the quads would be al over-developed if he wasnt a natty IMO.

    Great guy to have training you Titan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abaddon View Post
    Nice thighs
    But, banned on site? For what?! He don't look unnatural to my eye.
    nah he hasnt been banned on site, but seriously. if you saw him in person, you'd question it. MANY do/have.

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    Dude is THICK!

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    yeah. hes one of the best dudes ive ever met. proud to call him a friend.

    Quote Originally Posted by carl1174 View Post
    He has got an awesome physique. i agree that he looks natural, the quads would be al over-developed if he wasnt a natty IMO.

    Great guy to have training you Titan

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    not necessarily carl. roids dont change your genetics, per se. remember, most common users are 30+ middle class guys who jsut want to look good. if you watch jersey shore. id bet money most of them are on roids and NONE of those idiots have legs at all.

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    Check out my (former) 'trainer'/gym buddy lol



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    Quote Originally Posted by Abaddon View Post
    Check out my (former) 'trainer'/gym buddy lol



    5 foot 10 inches tall, 100 kilgrams (220.5lb)
    nice Ab!

    i train with a 5'7 220lber.
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    Awesome abs.... Again you would see if he wasnt a natty by the quads, always a dead giveaway , he has agreat physique as well...

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    Quote Originally Posted by carl1174 View Post
    Awesome abs.... Again you would see if he wasnt a natty by the quads, always a dead giveaway , he has agreat physique as well...

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    dangit carl...you skipped my post!!

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    ^^^^ oops sorry buddy, was trying toget the picture to show as it was a red cross to start with lol

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