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    Default Should DL be done mostly by lower body/lower back?

    I have read that DL is a great way to help improve back development as you are supposed to assist lifting the weight by "pulling/lifting" with your shoulders & upper back. Yet, some people I know at the gym say its to be done mostly by pushing with the legs & lifting with the lower back, and that your arms & shoulders should only serve to hold the weight as it is lifted.

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    Default heavy back day

    Try and keep it on its own day and focus on trying to do this far enough away from squats so the body can manage both.

    I like hitting squats and deads in opposite weeks, hit deads on a back day and make that your focus and then do another back day where it's more focused on the the easier lifts rows and pulldowns
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    Ive personally always done my DLing after Squats I sometime even DL twice a week, great for stamina.

    It works the whole body, emphasis should be towards the lower-body and as much pressure off the lower back as possible, But obviously with the movement it will happen.

    It is also very heavy on the traps and lats.

    Heavy DLing = Large traps.

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    Was asking how to do a DL, not when...sorry guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brian62275 View Post
    Was asking how to do a DL, not when...sorry guys.
    I said it is a full body exercise, based on form different muscles will be secondary

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    It's a large full body movement so in essence you will be hitting ALL of those areas. A lot of muscles spring into action when doing this and they are NOT limited to upper or lower body.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXF4O...eature=related

    Try this video, perhaps it may answer some of your anatomy puzzlements. It more addresses certain form issues but I believe some of information this guy provides in it will give you some insight into the large amalgam of muscles used as well as give some form pointers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brian62275 View Post
    Was asking how to do a DL, not when...sorry guys.
    http://www.muscleandstrength.com/art...formation.html

    this, its so well written you should be able to visualize it. If you're starting out, getting the weight up will be easy, technique will take some time to really fine tune.

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    DL should be done mostly by lower back. You ain't suppose to pull the weights up with your arm. http://www.muscleandstrength.com/exe...deadlifts.html Here's the video which shows how you can do a deadlift.
    There are a few variation of deadlift: The normal, The stiff leg and the olympic clean style. The normal deadlift puts an emphasis on the lower back.. Stiff leg emphasize on the hamstring while olympic clean style works more on the glutes and hamstring.

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    Cool, thanks guys. just curious, any ideas if a DL and a STLRDL can be done in the same workout?

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    There's no gym police, but i wouldn't. DL will sap away most of the posterior chain's strength IMO. Then there's the grip that will be drained too. Its too similar an exercise in my opinion to hit on the same day.

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    I deadlift on deadlift day. I think its tough to put the big power moves (squat, bench and deadlift) into things like chest day, leg day, back day, ect.

    I do deadlift + assistance on deadlift day.

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    But there is no reason you cant do deadlift and squats on the same day, a lot of full body routines do that.
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    Tuesday is squat day and Friday is deadlift day for me. I used to do them both on the same day and got extremely fatigued and my deadlift was suffering.
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    The deadlift is not a leg press while holding a barbell.

    The deadlift SHOULD NOT be done with mostly lower back. The lower back is heavily involved, but first and foremost proper form should be learned and practiced so lower back stress is minimized.
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