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    So, I have been a little menatlly sluggish in the gym and getting to the gym, as of late and thought if I came up with some new goals it might translate into greater gains and new motivation..so this is what came to mind after watching Jim in his powerlifting meet.
    After much googling, below are the records that I could find, of the 3 top lifters in TX in the 50-54 age group @ 165.2lbs. .... If someone finds these not to be currrent records, please inform..


    Raw Master II (50-54) Men Powerlifting 75 kg Total Record History

    Name Weight... (kgs..) Weight (lbs) Date Location
    Duane Young 442.50 975.50... 11/12/2011.. 2011 USAPL Longhorn Open
    Duane Young 420.00 925.75... 11/6/2010.. Austin, TX "Longhorn Open"
    Ron Douglas 380.00 837.50... 7/16/2010.. USAPL RAW Nationals 2010


    Top 2 would be a great reach, but I am thinking 837.5 might be attainable. Never thought i would say that or even consider competing in a powerlifting meet.

    I am at around 730, now with a substandard dead and squats.
    .............Current.......needed
    Squats.....230........275
    Deads......280........320
    Bench......225.........245
    Total........735lbs....840lbs

    I turn 50, end of Aug...I am thinking this looks like a realistic goal, when I break it down to specific lifts, but adding 105lbs to total amount seems like an aweful lot of weight to add at my age and unrealistic. But, I Still feel like a have quite a bit of room for improvement in squat and deads, could even up them more and reduce bench a bit, if need be.
    what are ya'lls opinions?? Does it seem realistic? Squats have always been weak due to knee issues, but I have been alot better as of late and I could always decrease one and up the other. Main goal is to hit a total 840...this is the only real bright spot i have found about turning 50, total weights drop considerably in competition at age 50..
    As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another...Proverbs 27:17
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    Joe I believe those goal weights should be easily achievable for you! Will you be able to get down to the 165-6 weight class easily?

    Jim will have you half way or more to the differences just this week I bet
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    Quote Originally Posted by KD5NFW View Post
    Joe I believe those goal weights should be easily achievable for you! Will you be able to get down to the 165-6 weight class easily?

    Jim will have you half way or more to the differences just this week I bet
    I believe so, my weight was 173-175 for along time till i forced fed myself, to get to 184. I am in the slooooooooow process of getting back down to 175. But i think 165 would be doable..
    haha, that would be pretty sweet!!
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    Are you trying to reach these goals by August or is that just your birthday. If its just your goal when and while your 50-54 I know you can do it. If you want to add that much by August honestly I think that's a big goal. I also think that you can add more to your bench. I know for power lifting you have to pause, but I think you can get more there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hunterace View Post
    Are you trying to reach these goals by August or is that just your birthday. If its just your goal when and while your 50-54 I know you can do it. If you want to add that much by August honestly I think that's a big goal. I also think that you can add more to your bench. I know for power lifting you have to pause, but I think you can get more there.
    definitly not by august, got to turn 50, 1st
    something maybe to accomplish in the next 9-12 months..saw there is a meet in early december, but that might be pushing it..
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    Quote Originally Posted by HDJoe View Post
    definitly not by august, got to turn 50, 1st
    something maybe to accomplish in the next 9-12 months..saw there is a meet in early december, but that might be pushing it..
    Absolutely you can do it!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by hunterace View Post
    Absolutely you can do it!!!
    appreciate the support...69 views and only you and Rich respond, this site is very frustrating at times
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    You can do it! I agree about the views... it's like bb with less people who post.

    You've already added a lot of weight to your lifts, why not more? Knees really are a ***** when it comes to squatting, I feel envious that you are still doing it at 49 where I can't at 20.

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    but adding 105lbs to total amount seems like an aweful lot of weight to add at my age and unrealistic.
    It's not at all. You have a lot of mileage in your lifts left.

    I think you could be at 300, 350 and 450 within a year if you worked hard. I see guys in their 40s make these jumps frequently. Believe and achieve.

    If I were training you I would expect the above numbers by next year. I think they are very reasonable goals, considering where you are at.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HDJoe View Post
    So, I have been a little menatlly sluggish in the gym and getting to the gym, as of late and thought if I came up with some new goals it might translate into greater gains and new motivation..so this is what came to mind after watching Jim in his powerlifting meet.
    After much googling, below are the records that I could find, of the 3 top lifters in TX in the 50-54 age group @ 165.2lbs. .... If someone finds these not to be currrent records, please inform..


    Raw Master II (50-54) Men Powerlifting 75 kg Total Record History

    Name Weight... (kgs..) Weight (lbs) Date Location
    Duane Young 442.50 975.50... 11/12/2011.. 2011 USAPL Longhorn Open
    Duane Young 420.00 925.75... 11/6/2010.. Austin, TX "Longhorn Open"
    Ron Douglas 380.00 837.50... 7/16/2010.. USAPL RAW Nationals 2010


    Top 2 would be a great reach, but I am thinking 837.5 might be attainable. Never thought i would say that or even consider competing in a powerlifting meet.

    I am at around 730, now with a substandard dead and squats.
    .............Current.......needed
    Squats.....230........275
    Deads......280........320
    Bench......225.........245
    Total........735lbs....840lbs

    I turn 50, end of Aug...I am thinking this looks like a realistic goal, when I break it down to specific lifts, but adding 105lbs to total amount seems like an aweful lot of weight to add at my age and unrealistic. But, I Still feel like a have quite a bit of room for improvement in squat and deads, could even up them more and reduce bench a bit, if need be.
    what are ya'lls opinions?? Does it seem realistic? Squats have always been weak due to knee issues, but I have been alot better as of late and I could always decrease one and up the other. Main goal is to hit a total 840...this is the only real bright spot i have found about turning 50, total weights drop considerably in competition at age 50..
    100% realistic. I see guys your age make incredible gains by paying attention to their diet and training hard. The numbers are within your grasp, you just need a push. Find people stronger than you to train with. You need to raise your bar in terms of what you see as realistic. Even if you only train with them once a month, it will open your eyes.

    Hit it hard.

    LtL

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    Quote Originally Posted by HDJoe View Post
    69 views and only you and Rich respond, this site is very frustrating at times
    agreed

    good luck with your training goals

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graeme View Post
    You can do it! I agree about the views... it's like bb with less people who post.

    You've already added a lot of weight to your lifts, why not more? Knees really are a ***** when it comes to squatting, I feel envious that you are still doing it at 49 where I can't at 20.

    Graeme
    because I am old with arthritis and bad knee's
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    I think you could reach that goal. Like Al said, a solid diet and consistent training in the gym could have you exceeding your expectations.

    That being said, I think with work on technique, we could help you get 3 plates on deads and 2.5 plates on squats in no time!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve View Post
    It's not at all. You have a lot of mileage in your lifts left.

    I think you could be at 300, 350 and 450 within a year if you worked hard. I see guys in their 40s make these jumps frequently. Believe and achieve.

    If I were training you I would expect the above numbers by next year. I think they are very reasonable goals, considering where you are at.
    those would be some great numbers to achieve, seem very aggressive at my age. Can i come stay with you for 6 months??
    Seriously, would you consider putting togethere a program or giving some input to what I should be doing to achieve those types of numbers???
    Currently I am doing a hybrid of the 4 day PMB, but without the burn.. 4-5 sets of heavy compounds with singles, doubles, and triples, than 1-2 other exercises for 2 sets in the 8-10rep range..
    thanks for the comments....1100lbs total...that would be outstanding!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LtL View Post
    100% realistic. I see guys your age make incredible gains by paying attention to their diet and training hard. The numbers are within your grasp, you just need a push. Find people stronger than you to train with. You need to raise your bar in terms of what you see as realistic. Even if you only train with them once a month, it will open your eyes.

    Hit it hard.

    LtL
    agree, that is one reason i was thinking of this goal..need a little rededication with the diet and training consistently ( ie..taking weekends off)..appreciate the comments, AL

    Quote Originally Posted by dday39 View Post
    agreed

    good luck with your training goals
    thank you
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    Quote Originally Posted by LtL View Post
    100% realistic. I see guys your age make incredible gains by paying attention to their diet and training hard. The numbers are within your grasp, you just need a push. Find people stronger than you to train with. You need to raise your bar in terms of what you see as realistic. Even if you only train with them once a month, it will open your eyes. Hit it hard.

    LtL
    Very true, I hope I can find somebody like this to push me further. Bodybuilders are incredibly rare where I'm from, most people just like to "work out".
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    great goals. You can do this
    220lbs, 13-14%bf,


    Hypertrophy is something that can be achieved with pretty much any intensity of load, as long as the work is progressive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HDJoe View Post

    Top 2 would be a great reach, but I am thinking 837.5 might be attainable. Never thought i would say that or even consider competing in a powerlifting meet.

    I am at around 730, now with a substandard dead and squats.
    .............Current.......needed
    Squats.....230........275
    Deads......280........320
    Bench......225.........245
    Total........735lbs....840lbs

    I turn 50, end of Aug...I am thinking this looks like a realistic goal, when I break it down to specific lifts, but adding 105lbs to total amount seems like an aweful lot of weight to add at my age and unrealistic. But, I Still feel like a have quite a bit of room for improvement in squat and deads, could even up them more and reduce bench a bit, if need be.
    what are ya'lls opinions?? Does it seem realistic? Squats have always been weak due to knee issues, but I have been alot better as of late and I could always decrease one and up the other. Main goal is to hit a total 840...this is the only real bright spot i have found about turning 50, total weights drop considerably in competition at age 50..
    HA...did i undersell myself...benching with Rich and Jim, hit 255lbs on bench!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by YoRR View Post
    great goals. You can do this
    appreciate it..
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